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15:53 < toya> hello
16:08 < toya> anyone awake in here?
16:12 < estebandido> hi
16:12 < yossarian> i'm here
16:13 < yossarian> i didn't have much success getting people in the uk together, but
i can report on where we're at here
16:14 < ryan> hiiii
16:14 < toya> yossarian: cool
16:14 < toya> yossarian: you can do it on irc or you will do audio stream?
16:15 < toya> we should wait a little longer
16:15 < toya> anw
16:15 < toya> we are pass only 15 min from the time we schedule this
16:15 < yossarian> whatever's easiest
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16:19 < techmeet-sp-1> hi :)
16:23 < ryan> hey
16:23 < ryan> so
16:24 < ryan> i have some proposals or
16:24 < ryan> some things to think about
16:24 < ryan> to end out techmeet 2007
16:24 < techmeet-sp-1> we'll not going to stream here today, but dont know if anyone
else from sao paulo is gonna do
16:25 < toya> alright
16:25 < toya> maybe we should start with yossarian talking about uk
16:26 < toya> i think it can be done here on irc
16:26 < yossarian> ok
16:26 < techmeet-sp-1> and i think we're about to leave (sorry :/) but we'll paste
in the channel some suggestions for next techmet... ok?
16:26 < yossarian> i am writing up a report on where we're at
16:27 < yossarian> and will paste it in here in sections so people can read it and
formulate questions (hopefully this will speed things up)
16:27 < yossarian> let me know when i should start
16:27 < techmeet-sp-1> 1 - it would be fine to start thinking in 2008 meeting dates
and
16:28 < techmeet-sp-1> 2 - would be fine to confirm if we can meet in bogota, as we
had not too much news from colombian tech collectives
16:28 < techmeet-sp-1> well, thats it :)
16:39 < techmeet-sp-1> sorry yossarian
16:40 < techmeet-sp-1> we think that you should start
16:41 < yossarian> ok
16:41 < yossarian> one moment
16:42 < yossarian> Legal situation
16:42 < yossarian> - the legal questions resulting from the seizure of the original
ahimsa box (during the ESF in 2004) ended up basically
unresolved. i was not heavily involved in the legal support
effort so i can't comment in detail, but from what i understand
we never did figure out exactly what happened, or definitively
prove the chain of events.
16:42 < yossarian> - more recently we have had a bunch of legal threats related to
specific postings. one problem we have is that libel law in the
UK is heavily stacked in the favour of the complainant, and is
extremely easy to use as a weapon of privilege as a result.
basically, UK law says that the publisher needs to prove that
there was no libel (i.e. we are guilty until proven innocent).
we have mostly been able to avoid any serious problems result
16:42 < yossarian> ing from legal threats by moving content to non-uk mirror
servers, or sometimes by pulling the article in question and then
writing a carefully-worded feature article about the issue (see
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/10/382951.html for example).
16:42 < yossarian> .
16:42 < yossarian> Servers
16:42 < yossarian> - currently we are running our mir publish server on the box
"traven", located in the riseup colo. traven has disk-access
problems, mostly related to a high iowait, which imposes
artificial limits on its capacity. since we had about 5000 quid
in the bank for the purposes of server purchases, in june of 2006
i made a proposal to buy a second box that we could use to move
the sites off traven, fix traven up, and then move the uk site ba
16:42 < yossarian> ck on to the new box, leaving the new box as additional capacity
for mir sites. due to a series of process-related difficulties,
this plan is *still* underway. currently the parts for it have
been purchased and are waiting for assembly and installation.
the box will go into a colo in manchester.
16:42 < yossarian> - we are currently running 3 mirrors of the uk site, in different
jurisdictions
16:42 < yossarian> - we have the money to purchase another server (besides the one
that is currently waiting for assembly) but the process of
getting the first one has been so painful that we haven't even
got there yet. having said that, if people can highlight what
they think we should spend 2500 pounds on, maybe we can put
together some kind of proposal to spend this money.
16:43 < yossarian> .
16:43 < yossarian> anything else i should focus on?
16:45 < ryan> hey all
16:45 < ryan> yossarian - this is a report on where techmeet is?
16:45 < yossarian> no, it's a report on where the uk is
16:46 < yossarian> sorry, maybe i misunderstood, i was just letting everybody else
know where things are at here in the uk
16:48 < toya> is ok yossarian
16:48 < toya> i was finishing reading
16:49 < toya> yossarian: we (brasil-tech) has a mir box marieta
16:49 < toya> yossarian: we are starting to migrate the sites to it
16:49 < toya> yossarian: if you need anything let us know
16:50 < yossarian> thanks
16:50 < yossarian> basically we have lots of resources and aren't using them very
effectively
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16:51 < toya> do you have bandwitdh?
16:51 < yossarian> hopefully the new server will be up and running soon - it is
quite a nice box, 32GB RAM and 1 terabyte storage, quad
processors...
16:51 < toya> video and radio needs that (i think)
16:52 < yossarian> we will need to increase our funding levels slightly in order to
pay for bandwidth for that box, but we should be able to manage
that
16:52 < toya> where you hosting it?
16:52 < yossarian> with a friend's colo in manchester
16:52 < toya> nice
16:53 < ryan> hey
16:54 < ryan> i would like to propose some stuff about today's meeting
16:54 < yossarian> so, after that box, we still have about 2500 pounds (about 3600
euros) to buy another server, or mutliple servers
16:54 < yossarian> if people have ideas about where that money would be best spent
to benefit the network, please let us know on imc-uk-tech
16:54 < toya> and how you keep the payment for hosting all these servers?
16:55 < yossarian> currently we have a bunch of people contributing like 10 pounds a
month each for ongoing costs
16:55 < yossarian> we will need to increase this by getting more people to do it,
but it should be possible with any luck
16:55 < ryan> yossarian: well, we have some desperate tech finance needs here to
help sfccp :)
16:55 < ryan> yossarian: even just a small slice of your remainder would help out
immensely
16:56 < yossarian> ryan, if you can quantify that maybe we can help out, however be
aware that people mostly want to spend that money on gear rather
than ongoing costs (there is a strong feeling in the uk that
ongoing costs should not come from capital funds)
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16:56 < yossarian> but yeah, let us know for sure
16:56 < ryan> yossarian: we just need a LITTLE breathing room on monthly payments
16:57 < techmeet-sp-1> bye people, happy meeting :)))))))))))
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16:57 < ryan> yossarian: like, 500 euros would permit us to just not have a monthly
stress
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16:57 < ryan> yossarian: right now we are like $100-some USD short every month, and
we always gotta scramble. we just need a few more clients and we will
be covered
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16:58 < yossarian> maybe it'd be better if we bought another box and started paying
for ongoing costs?
16:58 < ryan> yossarian: but until then, we gotta do this horrible hustle every
month, because everyone has been putting in so much of their personal
money, that even another $175 for this month's rent is feeling hurtful
16:58 * yossarian just thinking aloud here
16:58 < ryan> anyway, i wanted to add these things to the agenda:
16:59 < ryan> 1- proposal - additional techmeet meeting
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16:59 < ryan> 2- proposal - PR-campaign for this week (includes techmeet-related
meetings)
17:00 < ryan> 3- discussion about next steps, what to do next week, and how to
document this years techmeet most effetively (including a possible
chnage in software)
17:00 < ryan> also i have some questions:
17:00 < ryan> 1- who is here?
17:00 < ryan> 2- do we wanna do any audio/video stuff today?
17:01 < ryan> 3- how do we proceed and are there other agenda items?
17:01 < ryan> and i'm gonna go grab an orange juice next door, i'll be gone 5
minutes to let these topics develop ;)
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17:03 < luisfelipe> well, I just got here, dunno what's going on exactly yet
17:03 < luisfelipe> dont't know if anyone from sp already spoke, but we won't be
doing any streaming today
17:04 < toya> 1.I am 2.irc is ok 3.pr-campaign i dont get this (i could do another
meeting next sunday)
17:04 < toya> 16:27 < techmeet-sp-1> 1 - it would be fine to start thinking in 2008
meeting dates and
17:04 < toya> 16:28 < techmeet-sp-1> 2 - would be fine to confirm if we can meet in
bogota, as we had not too much news from colombian tech collectives
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17:04 * arwen is often on the indymedia,...i hope the indymedia can stay.
17:05 < toya> well
17:05 < arwen> but dunno wats exactly going to happen.
17:06 < toya> arwen: this is a discussion related with tecnical work done for social
moviments and indymedia etc.
17:06 < toya> some topics are related with indymedia, like the cms discussion
17:07 < arwen> thanks toya.
17:07 < toya> which havent happenned yet and probably will be schedule at this
meeting
17:07 < toya> np
17:07 < arwen> oke
17:07 < toya> maybe people can introduce themselves
17:07 < toya> so we know who are here
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17:08 * toya toya from imc-brasil also helping with sfccp
17:09 * kwadronaut living in .nl doing mainly techstuff for indymedias and other
projects
17:09 * ekes uk now in nl, doing drupal stuff -- will be going out so will lurk
17:09 < yossarian> - hi, i'm yossarian, from indymedia uk. tech-wise, mostly i'm
interested in application development (i'm not much of a server
admin). i have been working on some code experiments but have
been slowed down a lot by the lack of a stable server on which to
deploy projects. one example of an experiment is
http://english.indymedia.dk, which is a small companion site to
the danish indy site, running on their server (thanks denmark!).
the
17:09 < yossarian> site features flash-based video player, automatic image resizing,
tagging, multi-role access control, and a nifty timeline feature.
i have also written a calendar system based on the same codebase.
both sites feature extensive unit tests, good search features,
etc. i am very committed to working on whatever cms system comes
out of the cms discussion but will need to get up to speed on
whatever computer language is used, as i am mostly
17:09 < yossarian> doing ruby on rails work and don't have a lot of experience in
PHP or python (i can learn though). personally i am favour of
new development using some kind of framework (i.e. rails,
symfony, cake, turbogears or whatever) as i am not convinced that
existing CMS systems will really meet our needs. having said
that i'll get on board and help out with whatever people
collectively decide.
17:09 * simon denmark
17:09 < yossarian> (there that got in a bunch of stuff i wanted to raise anyway)
17:10 * groente <- .nl
17:10 * arwen living in nl.
17:11 * guido from santiago de chile
17:11 < arwen> wants to help with animal and humanrights.
17:11 * luisfelipe living in campinas and sao paulo, doing random stuff :)
17:11 * micah from usa, doing riseup and seattle community colo
17:11 * Zapata from the nl, doing misc. stuff ;-)
17:12 < arwen> and sometimes post news on the nl.
17:12 [Users #techmeet]
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17:12 [ arwen ] [ foz ] [ jaromil ] [ micah ] [ skep ] [ Zapata ]
17:12 [ briks ] [ gdm ] [ JoAnneThrax] [ nikete ] [ skidz ]
17:12 [ CtrlAltDel] [ groente] [ jsilence ] [ occam ] [ subtle]
17:12 [ dannyp ] [ guido ] [ kwadronaut ] [ roedora] [ t ]
17:12 [ ekes ] [ ianni ] [ luisfelipe ] [ ryan ] [ toya ]
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17:13 < toya> ok
17:14 < toya> maybe we go for the easy one first
17:14 < toya> unless there is other people to send presentation?
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17:14 < JoAnneThrax> I'm barely here, and I have to walk my flatmate's dogs in a few
minutes.
17:15 < JoAnneThrax> I'm in Madison, where we no longer have an active IMC, and I
play the saxophone.
17:16 < Pragmatk> lol
17:16 < Pragmatk> Okay, I'm from #denmark
17:16 < Pragmatk> And we're trying to get an IMC up and going
17:16 < Pragmatk> the submission's been 2.5 years on it's way
17:16 < Pragmatk> but we're almost there now.
17:16 < Pragmatk> We've just begun working on our own cms
17:16 < Pragmatk> and coming along great
17:16 * simon is one of the technical people from imc denmark. we've had some
experience with running various PHP-based CMSes and are actively looking
for alternatives to our current codebases. with respect to hosting, we've
got a server listed as a community server with room left.
17:16 < luisfelipe> ryan, what's the idea with having another meeting ?
17:17 < luisfelipe> ryan, is it something specific ?
17:17 < Pragmatk> simon, is our head guy. He's in charge of the coding of the
website.
17:17 < luisfelipe> (cms, I don't know)
17:18 * simon thinks we should wait with discussing the details of this
17:18 < acracia> i have been alwas working around streaming
17:18 < ryan> ok hi
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17:20 < ryan> i am ryan, i am from san francisco, i work with linefeed, sfccp,
sf-imc, sf-active, a handful of other activist projects, and i am
mostly interesting in imc-cms project and collaboration with
linefeed/sfccp with other groups. i agree 1000% with yossarian's
assessment of the cms situation :D
17:20 < skidz>
17:20 < simon> is anyone the spokesman of this meeting? I'm new to them.
17:21 < simon> (sorry, spokesperson. I'm dragging things mindlessly out of
dictionaries)
17:23 < yossarian> can someone recap the agenda? it's scrolled off the of my history
17:24 < toya> ryan: ?
17:24 < ryan> hi
17:24 < ryan> sory
17:24 < ryan> skidz! welcome
17:25 < toya> ok
17:25 < toya> so we have a proposal for a next meeting
17:25 < toya> next sunday
17:25 < toya> if people dont know how techmeet has being organized
17:25 < toya> this month
17:26 < toya> we had conferences every sunday, this is the third one
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17:26 < toya> the proposal for having one more conference is because we have to talk
17:26 < toya> about the cms - next steps for techmeet - techmeet 2008 (where it will
be)
17:27 < toya> and maybe all this wont fit in this meeting
17:27 < skidz> ah hey
17:27 < toya> probably we will need more preparation for the cms meeting (this
discussion is going on since last year - first techmeet - and has some
documentation about it on the wiki techmeet.org)
17:28 < luisfelipe> do you think we could at least get started on the cms today ?
17:28 < luisfelipe> or would it be better to wait and try to focus on different
stuff ?
17:28 < luisfelipe> is *anyone* going to do streaming today ?
17:29 < toya> luisfelipe: yeah i think we should at least talk about how the meeting
will be like
17:29 < toya> luisfelipe: i dont think so
17:29 < ryan> luisfelipe: so like, should we just start this agenda item?
17:29 < ryan> luisfelipe: about the various topics?
17:29 < ryan> luisfelipe: or shouldnt we just go through them one-by-one
17:30 < ryan> i have some specific suggestions about imc-cms meting
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17:30 < ryan> so, this is what i asked ->
17:30 < ryan> does anyone have any other agenda items?
17:30 < luisfelipe> I don't
17:30 < fierman> (url of videofeed?)
17:31 < ryan> so, i would suggest
17:31 < ryan> taking my agenda items
17:31 < ryan> and going through them :D
17:31 < ryan> and if anyone wants to add while we're talking we do it
17:31 < ryan> i dont think they'll take that long to discuss
17:31 < luisfelipe> seems fine
17:31 < ryan> (my agenda itens)
17:31 < ryan> ok, so toya, you started facilitating it? you wanna keep doing it?
17:31 < ryan> anyone else?
17:31 < luisfelipe> i just asked about the streaming because if anyone is going to,
we should probably have that first
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17:33 < toya> luisfelipe: yossarian did a presentation of uk, but here on irc
17:34 < luisfelipe> yeah, I saw that :)
17:34 < yossarian> i can put it on the wiki if it'd be useful
17:35 < toya> ok
17:35 < toya> so
17:36 < toya> we need to decide how we are moving on with this meeting
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17:36 < toya> so we leave it schedule?
17:36 < toya> a meeting next sunday?
17:37 < toya> what would be the agenda for that?
17:37 < toya> i think we should decide this before moving on with the agenda itens
for today
17:37 < toya> ...
17:37 < ryan> ok so,
17:37 < ryan> i can speak on that
17:38 < ryan> on the agenda items i proposed, i wrote:
17:38 < ryan> 11:59 < ryan> 2- proposal - PR-campaign for this week (includes
techmeet-related meetings)
17:38 < ryan> 12:00 < ryan> 3- discussion about next steps, what to do next week
17:38 < ryan> so, what i meant by that was
17:38 < ryan> discussing:
17:38 < ryan> 1) a meeting next sunday? would what the agenda be? why would we have
it? also, i believe we should do a ton of PR (promotion) for the
meeting, to guarantee the most participation possible
17:39 < ryan> and that includes a couple OTHER little tiny techmeet mtgs this week
that i've neen mentioning here and there the past few weeks but havent
materialized
17:39 < ryan> for me,
17:41 < ryan> i had the worst timing every for techmeet. a project i am 100%
responsible for which includes about a dozen people and a ton of money
on the line, all of this has been climaxing over the past 3 weeks,
literally, same weeks as techmeet. so i've been cut off a little from
how much i wanted to participate in techmeet, and i dont take it
lightly
17:41 < ryan> it weighs on me all the time
17:42 < ryan> anyway, for me, and maybe its selfish, but i think i could help get
some really good collaborationsh happening this week
17:42 < simon> what is the purpose of this meeting besides arranging a meeting next
sunday?
17:42 < ryan> culminating in a really good week of techmeet
17:42 < toya> ok, so for the next sunday meeting, what would the agenda be?
17:43 < ryan> that everyone notices and everyone wants to participate in the
on-going projects coming out of techmeet 2007 ;)
17:43 < ryan> toya: well, do we want to set an agenda for this mtg first?
17:43 < toya> ....
17:43 < toya> we have it
17:43 < toya> is your proposal
17:44 < toya> the first thing was proposing a meeting next sunday
17:44 < toya> i am trying to figure out what will be on the agenda forthat
17:45 < toya> so we can send a call with telling this and inviting the ppl
17:45 < toya> if its a summary of 2007 discussion
17:45 < toya> together witha presentation of next steps etc
17:46 < toya> than thats it
17:46 < toya> we can move to the other itens ..just want to know so we can work on a
call for this meeting
17:46 < ryan> ok well
17:47 < ryan> i think the agenda will partly change based on what else we talk about
today, but otherwise would be:
17:48 < ryan> a) formation of "next-steps" working groups:
17:48 < ryan> i) techmeet software working group (people who can work on the wiki
website or replace it if it sucks),
17:49 < ryan> ii) techmeet 2008 planning group
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17:49 < toya> ok
17:49 < ryan> and,
17:50 < ryan> b) spreading the work we've done here through:
17:50 < ryan> i) effective, useful archiving of the work we did,
17:50 < ryan> ii) working groups to inform imc-cms group of the work we did,
17:50 < ryan> iii) working groups to facilitate collaboration between tech
collectives
17:51 < ryan> iv) generally promoting out results and plans (coordinated on
techmeet list)
17:51 < ryan> just to form those groups
17:51 < ryan> so the can go on and continue the work we've started here
17:51 < ryan> *they
17:52 < toya> the iii) i think dont need to exist, people who wants to work together
just contact each other and do it, dont need to have a group to be
facilitating this, techmeet already is this 'facilitation' process
17:53 < ryan> i think iii) would just be a mailing list
17:53 < ryan> where people could send relevant news,
17:53 < ryan> possibilities for collaboration,
17:54 < ryan> stuff like that, and people who are on it are all the people who
belong to a tech collective
17:54 < ryan> just a discussion group
17:54 < ryan> real informal
17:54 < luisfelipe> the techmeet mailing list could work for that too I think,
couldn't it ?
17:54 < ryan> luisfelipe: but that is for *organizing* techmeet
17:54 < ryan> luisfelipe: not everony wants to hear a bunch of email about
organizing techmeet
17:54 < toya> it can be for this too, it doesnt have traffic
17:55 < ryan> luisfelipe: but they would like discussion about topics relevant to
all of us
17:55 < luisfelipe> perhaps setting a secondary mailing list for organization ?
because I believe there are people on the techmeet right now who
are there
17:55 < luisfelipe> not for organization purposes
17:55 < luisfelipe> well, the idea of having a list is good
17:55 < ryan> luisfelipe: well, we can begin by just moving everyone on techmeet
list to the new list ;)
17:55 < luisfelipe> which one is it is just an implementation issue :P
17:56 < ryan> luisfelipe: assuming the would want to be on discussion list also
17:56 < ryan> but really
17:56 < ryan> we are discussions something from next week's agenda :D
17:57 < ryan> so, right now we are on this agenda item (we have 3 of them today):
17:58 < ryan> 11:58 < ryan> 1- proposal - additional techmeet meeting
17:58 < ryan> and then toya asked what the agenda would be
17:58 < ryan> and above is my proposal for that
17:58 < ryan> if people agree, then i say we decide on date/time
17:59 < ryan> and put together an invite email today for it to send out
17:59 < ryan> to everyone
meet-related meetings)
18:01 < ianni> yes i agree
18:02 < ryan> so, all i mean by this
18:03 < ryan> is that i think we should go crazy this week with making sure this is
the biggest techmeet mtg
18:03 < ryan> of them all
18:03 < ryan> like, email everyone all over again
18:03 < ryan> that we emailed at the beginning
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18:04 < ryan> we coudl just cooordinate that on the techmeet list
18:04 < ryan> BUT- the other point of that
18:05 < ryan> is that there 2 tchmeet-rleated meetings i've been trying to have
18:05 < ryan> but we could have them this week:
18:05 < ryan> a) an sf-active meeting, we all agreed to have one but didnt and so we
could have it this week, no problem and
18:06 < ryan> b) i have this 80% completed summary of the imc-cms research summary,
and i wanted to post this to the imc-cms list
18:06 < ryan> and then hold a little meeting
18:06 < ryan> of imc-cms people to review the summary
18:06 < ryan> and add stuff to it
18:07 < ryan> and then, we could review this completely on sunday's meetings
18:07 < ryan> so we could make a good "next steps" plN
18:07 < ryan> *plan
18:07 < ryan> and,
18:07 < ryan> this would help publicizer techmeet more throughout the week
18:07 < ryan> i have less work this week, finally
18:08 < ryan> so i can promise to help with all of this
18:08 < ryan> what do people think?
18:09 < luisfelipe> I'm ok with that
18:09 < luisfelipe> (also, where is the imc-cms mailing list ?)
18:09 < ryan> luisfelipe: its on lists.indymedia.org
18:09 < luisfelipe> gonna subscribe
18:16 < ryan> ok well
18:16 < ryan> i take people are ok with all this
18:17 < ryan> last agenda item:
18:17 < ryan> 12:00 < ryan> 3- discussion about next steps, what to do next week,
and how to document this years techmeet most effetively (including a
possible chnage in software)
18:17 < ryan> but maybe this is something we just talk about next week?
18:17 < yossarian> ryan, i suspect a lot of people are new to the techmeet process
and are not sure what to make of it (partly because so many
people showed up in the third week of what's going on)
18:17 < ryan> since there is already a lot of work now to get ready for next week?
18:18 < ryan> yossarian: ok, i could see that.. what should we do?
18:18 < yossarian> i could write up a quick summary of what's gone on so far
18:18 < yossarian> and post it on the wiki?
18:18 < toya> yah
18:18 < yossarian> like 4 paragraphs or something
18:18 < ryan> sure, that'd be great
18:19 < yossarian> and you can proceed with the meeting right now, sound good?
18:19 < yossarian> ok
18:19 < toya> also i will try to get the audios and try to do summary of them as well18:19 < toya> is worth to have it
18:19 < ryan> proceed w/mtg right now? i dont get it
18:19 < yossarian> yeah, the audio was great
18:19 < yossarian> i guess i'm saying just proceed with the agenda while it write
stuff up, as it'll take about 10 minutes probably
18:20 < toya> but i dont think i can get that going in time for next week, but at
least organize this things and keep people updated with the work on
the list etc
18:20 < ryan> yossarian: oh i see. well, i the agenda might be over. i'm going to be
online for the next 4-5 hours, doing techmeet work
18:20 < toya> listen to it all and get summaries will take a lots of hours
18:20 < ryan> so if anyone wants to hang out and talk with me or help me while i do
that, that'd be cool
18:21 < ryan> otherwise i dunno if this meeting needs to go on
18:21 < ryan> skidz: it'd be cool of people from imc-israel could participate in
video conference next week
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18:22 < skidz> we will
18:22 < ryan> skidz: we've been doing some audio/video conferencing
18:22 < skidz> :)
18:22 < ryan> i'm also going to try and get houston there
18:22 < toya> i have added to techmeet.org all the surveys
18:22 < toya> done
18:23 < toya> last year
18:23 < ryan> it would be cool if next meet's techmeet was the biggest one yet
18:23 < ryan> that's what would make me happy
18:23 < ryan> and so we can do it
18:24 < skidz> ah, video
18:24 < skidz> yeah, sounds good
18:25 < skidz> nice to see how many peeps showed up here
18:25 < toya> http://techmeet.org/txt/IndymediaCMS2006
18:25 < ryan> we have documentation up
18:25 < toya> they are in here
18:25 < ryan> and we can help you get it set up, too
18:25 < ryan> skidz: anyone over there have a macbook?
18:25 < skidz> me
18:25 < ryan> oh cool
18:25 < ryan> we can video chat together :D
18:25 < toya> if a summary or new topics/next steps for the cms are going to happen
18:25 < toya> maybe they should be here
18:25 < ryan> thats what we've been doing
18:25 < ryan> its cool
18:25 < toya> http://techmeet.org/txt/2007AgendaCMS
18:26 < ryan> skidz: i'll send you some more info later today
18:26 < ryan> skidz: israel-imc project is one thing being discussed here
18:26 < ryan> skidz: because we're talking about managing incoming requests for tech
assistance
18:27 < ryan> skidz: and how to best organize, how to best schedule them, etc
18:27 < skidz> cool
18:27 < skidz> tanx
