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28Sept2007MtgLogFrom techmeetThis is the raw IRC log of the 21 Aug Meeting for techmeet2007. You should also refer to 28Sept2007MtgAgenda and 28Sept2007Meeting_Notes for more details about this meeting. 12:54 < rhatto> from the techmeet wiki: Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be recorded in this page's edit history. 12:54 < rhatto> is it supposed to log ips? 12:54 < elisa> I already ask this in the list 12:58 < rhatto> yes, i saw, but no replies 12:58 < elisa> yep :/ 12:59 < elisa> is the time, we can start the meet presentations? 12:59 < rhatto> hum: https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/mediawiki/2006-May/000011.html 13:00 < rhatto> i think would be fine to remove anon edits at the wiki, so people didnt get their ip logged by accident 13:00 < kwadronaut> oi 13:00 < rhatto> elisa: sim :) 13:00 < elisa> oi 13:00 < elisa> so I can start 13:01 < elisa> elisa from IMC-Brazil, Sarava and Birosca 13:01 < rhatto> im rhatto from brasil 13:02 < kwadronaut> imc.nl, doing tech stuff for various projects mainly .nl and .be 13:02 < rhatto> anyone else here? 13:03 < rhatto> well, i'll past the proposed agenda until people wake: 13:03 < rhatto> 1 - invited groups 13:03 < rhatto> 2 - how organization is going? 13:04 < rhatto> 3 - voip/streaming research 13:04 < rhatto> i would like to add also another topic: 13:04 < elisa> ok 13:05 < rhatto> 4 - proposed discussion agenda for the techmeet (so people can just suggest what they would like to talk about) 13:05 -!- yossarian [yossarian@37647e.3f60d9.a73e2b.42fdcb] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] 13:06 < robbt> robb from cbusimc 13:06 < rhatto> :) 13:07 < rhatto> so, it seens that a lot of people is missing, so perhaps it would be best to switch to an "informal mode" and then just write somenotes in the mailing list, uh? 13:09 < elisa> humpff 13:09 < elisa> � o jeito 13:09 < kwadronaut> maybe we should wait till x:20? 13:10 < rhatto> ok to me 13:10 < elisa> ok 13:10 < kwadronaut> i'm ok with rhattos proposal unless alot of people still turn up in these 10 minutes ;-) 13:12 < robbt> yeah, lets wait a second, i'm not on the mailing list, where is it hosted and how can i subscribe, i'm from columbus indymedia, i just saw the announcement on imc communication recently, but we were thinking of participating in some small regard, we have a space that could probably host a couple of events. 13:15 < kwadronaut> robbt: https://listas.sarava.org/wws/info/techmeet-announce 13:15 < rhatto> robbt: list address is https://listas.sarava.org/wws/info/techmeet and there's an announcement only list at https://listas.sarava.org/wws/info/techmeet-announce 13:15 < rhatto> ops :) 13:15 < rhatto> hehe 13:15 < kwadronaut> thanks rhatto :-) 13:16 -!- mainbrana [mainbrana@48dff2.786004.3a04a8.d5471e] has joined #techmeet 13:19 < robbt> cool thanks 13:21 < toya> oi 13:21 < toya> hold a min 13:21 -!- yossarian [yossarian@37647e.3f60d9.a73e2b.42fdcb] has joined #techmeet 13:22 -!- estebandido [venezuela@3dc69a.4d49c2.1fc59d.b5a419] has joined #techmeet 13:25 -!- anarcat [anarcat@53d63e.10e82b.221240.df9ad7] has joined #techmeet 13:25 < toya> more ppl are arriving 13:26 < anarcat> hi 13:26 < rhatto> :))) 13:26 -!- alex [name@4f2848.1ecd46.9679b8.d05e3c] has joined #techmeet 13:26 < estebandido> hola salut hi 13:26 -!- zapATIsta [marco@1ab00b.a45d6b.9aac94.530f3c] has joined #techmeet 13:27 < anarcat> i can't really be here right now, because of rsi problems (neck pain), i will have to get off the machine, i fear, but i'm interested 13:28 < anarcat> i'm anarcat@koumbit.org 13:28 < rhatto> anarcat: are you or do you want to be in one of the mailing lists? 13:30 < toya> ok 13:30 < rhatto> can we start? 13:30 < anarcat> i'm not currently on any mailing list except ircd@ and i'm not sure i need more emails :) 13:32 < rhatto> :))) 13:32 < rhatto> ok, people here who wish to join the lists: https://listas.sarava.org/wws/info/techmeet and https://listas.sarava.org/wws/info/techmeet-announce (announcement only) 13:32 -!- elisa changed the topic of #techmeet to: http://techmeet.org | Next meet, friday 28/09 - 13h - SP, -3 utc / people here who wish to join the lists: https://listas.sarava.org/wws/info/techmeet and https://listas.sarava.org/wws/info/techmeet-announce (announcement only) 13:33 -!- pepe [jgarrido@2a2ca4.ddf950.c3bce0.740d4f] has joined #techmeet 13:33 < kwadronaut> maybe on the agenda: are there any updates that haven't been sent on the lists since last meeting? 13:33 -!- foz [pjirc@3dc69a.8ccae4.8ebc88.c7a1f4] has joined #techmeet 13:34 < rhatto> [pt] alguem precisa de ajudar com traducoes? 13:34 < rhatto> [pt] ops, ajudas 13:34 < rhatto> kwadronaut: no idea 13:35 < toya> kwadronaut: i think a good update would be ppl giving local organizing updates 13:35 < toya> kwadronaut: so other ppl from the area knows about it 13:35 < rhatto> hey, before entering this topic, can i paste the proposed agenda again? 13:35 < kwadronaut> yes 13:36 < rhatto> ok 13:36 < rhatto> 1 - invited groups 13:36 < rhatto> 2 - how organization is going? (local and global) 13:36 < rhatto> 3 - voip/streaming research 13:36 < rhatto> 4 - proposed discussion agenda for the techmeet (so people can just suggest what they would like to talk about) 13:38 < toya> :) 13:38 < rhatto> ok 13:38 < elisa> we can start with the 1 13:38 < elisa> the list of the invited groups 13:39 < elisa> http://techmeet.org/txt/2007InvitedParticipants 13:39 < rhatto> ok to me, then we can turn back to the updates, right? 13:39 * toya wonders if is a need for introductions 13:39 < anarcat> you want a bot to manage speaking turns and agenda? 13:39 < anarcat> i can bring a zakim in 13:40 < kwadronaut> toya: most people already introduced themselves 13:40 < rhatto> toya: i think people can introduce theirselfs at their first talk, hein? then things go fast as we dont need to wait for everyone 13:40 < rhatto> anarcat: would be fine i think :) 13:41 < toya> rhatto: ok, sounds good 13:41 < anarcat> hmm... it doesn't do ssl do... might be a security liability 13:41 < anarcat> (i'm used to using it on freenode...) 13:42 < rhatto> no problem :) 13:43 -!- zakim [techmeet-br@c06fe3.295f93.4a2cd6.b13f12] has joined #techmeet 13:43 < toya> anarcat: the server changed so for bots there have been problems...ppl in sfkids were fixing it for their bots..you can ask on the channel ;) 13:43 < anarcat> actually, not a problem, the bot is in the same cabinet as the irc server :) 13:43 < rhatto> anyone thinks we need to moderate this meeting? i think we can try to make a freetalk and when the mess come we move to moderation... 13:43 < anarcat> agenda+ invited groups 13:43 * zakim notes agendum 1 added 13:43 < anarcat> agenda+ how organization is going? (local and global) 13:43 * zakim notes agendum 2 added 13:43 < anarcat> agenda+ voip/streaming research 13:43 * zakim notes agendum 3 added 13:44 < anarcat> agenda+ proposed discussion agenda for the techmeet (so people canjust suggest what they would like to talk about) 13:44 * zakim notes agendum 4 added 13:44 < rhatto> :)))))))))))) 13:44 < anarcat> usage is fairly trivial, ask for "help" in private 13:44 < anarcat> open next agendum 13:44 * zakim thinks agendum 1. "invited groups" taken up [from anarcat] 13:46 < rhatto> anarcat: could you drive with while we still not used to? 13:48 < rhatto> well, at http://techmeet.org/txt/2007InvitedParticipants we can see that there's some few groups we need to contact 13:50 < kwadronaut> i see that the list is not fully up to date with the groups i had contact with... 13:55 < anarcat> rhatto: sure 13:56 < anarcat> tell me if you want speaking turns, i'll explain how it works (it's really easy) 13:57 < anarcat> if i can add a group to that list, i'd add myself (koumbit.org) 13:57 < rhatto> just added http://techmeet.org/txt/28SeptMtgAgenda 13:58 < rhatto> anarcat: for now i dont think we should speek in turns as things are happening slowly 13:58 < anarcat> sure 14:03 < kwadronaut> rhatto: maybe your proposal isn't that bad about switching to "informal" mode? 14:04 < rhatto> yes :) 14:05 < rhatto> i think we can just talk and do stuff and then send a note to the list 14:05 < robbt> yah 14:05 < rhatto> its not too much work 14:05 < elisa> ok 14:05 < elisa> is better 14:05 < rhatto> we can also add this notes to the wiki 14:05 < rhatto> :) 14:07 < elisa> so 14:07 < elisa> we have some groups to invite 14:08 < rhatto> kwadronaut: do you know which ones you contacted that arent tagged in the list? 14:08 < anarcat> zakim: excuse us 14:08 -!- zakim [techmeet-br@c06fe3.295f93.4a2cd6.b13f12] has left #techmeet [] 14:09 < kwadronaut> rhatto: hacklab in brussels, dijon people already told their stuff on the list, tuxic/ascii/puscii are interested to participate 14:09 < kwadronaut> wonder whether one of the latter actually wants to host/setup some stuff. 14:10 < kwadronaut> that's all i can tell about it right now. 14:11 -!- yossarian [yossarian@37647e.3f60d9.a73e2b.42fdcb] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:11 < rhatto> right, i think we can just tagged them as "sent" as anyway we can send a final announcement some days before the local meetings 14:12 -!- ianni [ianni@48dff2.6c2260.11a279.08c7c2] has joined #techmeet 14:12 < kwadronaut> yes. 14:12 < rhatto> im gonna get the contacts of the remaining groups and send the invitation, anyone wants to help me? 14:15 < rhatto> ok, can we pass to item 2? (How organization is going? (local and global)) 14:17 < kwadronaut> please do so. the silence is killing. 14:17 < ryan> helloooo 14:18 < ryan> sorry to be late, i had to be somewhere this morning.. now i'm here 14:18 < rhatto> :) 14:18 < ryan> hi rhatoooo 14:18 < rhatto> :))) 14:18 < elisa> rhatto I can help with the invitations 14:19 < elisa> we don't need to send to linefeed, ryan can do this, no? 14:21 < ryan> heh yeah :) 14:21 < elisa> :) 14:21 < toya> hi sorry i was distracted 14:21 < robbt> so can individual indymedias participate ? 14:21 < toya> robbt: sure 14:22 < rhatto> ok, started notes: http://techmeet.org/txt/4SeptMtgAgenda 14:22 < toya> kwadronaut: donna from genderchangers in nl was asking bout what is beeing organized in there 14:22 < rhatto> oops 14:22 < rhatto> wrong page 14:22 < rhatto> ll fix that 14:23 < kwadronaut> toya: i reply to that in pvt 14:24 < toya> on the list of ppl to invite there were some groups i couldnt find their contact email to send the invitation 14:25 < toya> http://techmeet.org/txt/2007InvitedParticipants 14:27 < rhatto> ok, agenda at http://techmeet.org/txt/28SeptMtgAgenda and notes at http://techmeet.org/txt/28SeptMeeting_Notes, sorry for the confusion 14:27 < occam> hi 14:28 < rhatto> toya: i just volunteered to get the contacts and send the invitation, if you want to do this too we can meet another time so the meeting can flow, no i think we can move to point 2 14:28 < rhatto> s/no/now 14:28 < toya> rhatto: alright 14:29 < occam> are we at agenda #2? 14:29 < occam> :) 14:29 < rhatto> point 2 is How organization is going? (local and global) 14:29 < rhatto> :))) 14:30 < rhatto> i can start giving a short summary about local brazilian meetings 14:30 * toya can give a summary of sf after rhatto 14:31 < occam> ok, i proposed the 13 and 14. oct as a date for the techmeet in berlin... mostyl good feedback. i also got the developer of oggfwd interested to help us with the video stream. as soon as the date and location is set for berlin, i will send another round of invites to the kids to inform them about the exact details 14:31 < occam> done :) 14:32 < rhatto> wow!!! 14:32 < rhatto> :))) 14:32 < occam> kids = the tech collectives from germany and around germany, free.de, so36, nadir etc 14:32 < rhatto> (there's a guy here who worked with oggfwd, perhaps you know him, his name is juba, maybe we can put these guys in contact) 14:33 < ryan> ooooh we are thinking the 13 and 14 also, occam 14:33 < ryan> to have an event at a local place 14:33 < ryan> like video conferencing, some boxes with irc 14:33 < ryan> at a place with food and alcohol 14:33 < occam> yeah, i was asking J@v2v for hardware resources, so have some good camera etc.. 14:34 < ryan> (sorry to speak out of turn) 14:34 < ryan> (i just noticed) 14:34 < toya> i think we should keep all the sundays to have conferences (even is it on irc i dont knwo) so the discussions can follow on the 3 sundays, and ppl who are doing things on the others days of the month can meet no matter what on those sundays 14:34 < rhatto> in sao paulo 14:34 < rhatto> ops 14:35 < rhatto> for sao paulo we're thinking in make 3 meetings before each teleconference 14:35 < estebandido> we proposed the 21 to 28 january 2008 as a date to techmeet in Caracas Venezuela 14:35 < occam> right. thats my plan here too. using the 13 for preparing presentations and doing the talk, and 14 for making the video conference 14:36 < rhatto> we're just a few people and then its easy to invite everyone; there's some hacking groups here but usually apolitical and i dont think if would be a nice idea to contact them 14:36 < rhatto> i've hearded about people from rio de janeiro who is also thinking to join 14:37 < rhatto> in goiania is gonna happen a free radio meeting and then people are planning a local meeting also 14:37 < toya> sf -> we will have a video exibition on the 13 - and follow the conferences during the 3 sundays - 14, 21, 28 - till now 14:37 < rhatto> <- end 14:37 < occam> estebandido: will you be able to do a live video stream? 14:40 < mainbrana> we're thinking in make a meetings in rio de janeiro too,maybe 20-21/10, but there are fews ppl 14:41 < estebandido> occam what is a video stream 14:41 < kwadronaut> nl -> seen many interested individuals (in different groups) interested, not seen people stepping up to organise stuff. 13.14 there will be foss conference in .nl where probably some of those people will go anyways. < end 14:42 < estebandido> occam it's posible to do a video stream in caracas 14:42 * toya thinks one good thing to do is to get the time those conferences on the sundays will happen! so ppl can organize for the time everyone will be online 14:43 < rhatto> :))) 14:43 < elisa> yep 14:43 < elisa> just put let the date in the week 14:44 < rhatto> im hungry, didint have lunch yet, can we move to #3? :P 14:45 < elisa> qual eh o 3? 14:45 < rhatto> Voip/streaming research 14:45 < toya> rhatto: lets get the time for the sunda meetings first 14:45 < elisa> toya 14h sp time, is ok? 14:46 < toya> otherwise ppl will start to organize in the time they think is ok, and it can be diferent for the others 14:46 < toya> well, i dont know, is 14 brasil time ok for everyone? 14:46 < toya> for the sundays conferences? 14:46 < elisa> yep 14:46 < occam> thats like now right? 14:47 < elisa> is -3 utc 14:47 < occam> its perfect for germany 14:47 < elisa> lunch time 14:47 < elisa> good 14:47 < elisa> for us I think that is ok, rhatto? 14:48 < toya> here in sf will be in the mornings 14:48 < toya> a little bit later would be better 14:48 < toya> like 15 14:48 < toya> which is 11 am 14:48 < elisa> ok for us too 14:48 < elisa> germany? 14:48 < toya> otherwise 9 am for ppl to meet up would be too early i think 14:49 < toya> is now 15hr in brasil? 14:49 < elisa> almost 14:49 < elisa> 3 to 15h 14:49 < kwadronaut> maybe one hour later would be better 7pm for germany is hard with the food, not? 14:50 < kwadronaut> occam: ? 14:50 < rhatto> gonna eat, sorry folks 14:50 < toya> kwadronaut: fodo? 14:50 < occam> kwadronaut: its ok, ppl will eat befor it.. we will hang out befor it anyway 14:50 < toya> alright 14:50 < toya> :) 14:51 < occam> the time is perfect, even +/- 4 hours would be possible 14:52 < elisa> ok 14:52 < toya> so is 3pm sp, 11am sf, 7pm german? 14:52 < elisa> 20h amsterdam 14:53 < occam> 8pm germany.. yes 14:53 < toya> ok 14:53 < toya> lets go to number #3 14:55 < toya> 14:45 < rhatto> Voip/streaming research 14:55 < toya> ? 14:55 < toya> can we move to it? 14:55 < elisa> yep 14:55 < occam> ok for me 14:55 < elisa> this point was to see what we will use to do the streming 14:56 < toya> i can talk about ekiga 14:56 < toya> ekiga is hard because we will have to use their server :/ and i am not sure how the quality will be with lots of ppl on 14:56 < toya> in a conference 14:56 * elisa have to go 14:57 < toya> althought, micah said riseup has an asterisk server (that needs work) and if it is set up by the time we will have the conferences we could use it 14:57 * occam did some quicktime streaming server test. if you have a mac, it is very easy to get it running. you can use the darwin server and the qt broadcaster and it will stream with a 5-8 seconds delay on a LAN. I triedto get the darwin server running on linux, but did not had any luck. 14:57 -!- boud [boud@7c1b03.e6280c.4e930f.556159] has joined #techmeet 14:58 -!- elisa [elisa@3dc69a.f89073.cf7f22.e6c18d] has quit [Quit: Fui embora] 14:58 < toya> is also possible to use icecast for the video streamm.... 14:58 < occam> yes 14:59 < occam> i saw that working before 14:59 < toya> juba from brasil 14:59 < toya> has beeing working with it 15:00 < toya> .... 15:00 < toya> he was supposed to be on this meeting but.... 15:00 < occam> there are some requirements 15:01 < occam> first, it will only work with dvgrab, that means, you need a DV cam and a firewire input 15:01 < occam> you need a "fast" cpu, since it has to do some real time encoding 15:01 < occam> if you have a slow cpu, the delay might be very long 15:02 < occam> i have no exact requirements ;( but i guess around > 1ghz 15:02 < toya> this is for the icecast? 15:02 < toya> to use icecast for streamm? 15:02 < occam> this is for the upstream server 15:02 < occam> the broadcaster 15:03 < occam> yes, icecast video live stream 15:03 < occam> using ogg vorbis as video codec 15:03 < toya> it can be done without the dvgrab 15:03 < toya> i mean if you have the card for a normal video camera (not digital one) you can still do it 15:03 < occam> ah.. ok.. 15:04 < toya> vlc 15:04 < toya> also works for it 15:04 < toya> http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Sysadmin/WebTVPt 15:04 < occam> also, it is hard to seperate the video and audio, like, if you like to use a external micriphone 15:04 < toya> some info from juba's work 15:04 < toya> but is all in pt 15:04 -!- anarcat [anarcat@53d63e.10e82b.221240.df9ad7] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] 15:04 < occam> microphone.. 15:05 < occam> you have to try to use the mic from the camera 15:05 < toya> i see 15:05 < occam> or you will have allot of problems to get the signal in sync 15:05 < occam> or you have a video mixer ... 15:05 < toya> hmmm 15:06 < occam> where you can plugin the mic and where you have one output that goes directliny into the computer 15:06 < toya> whata bout if we make it easier :) like just set a webcam on each location...the put the shots this camera is getting on a page, which will be centralizing all the webcams :) - no audio 15:06 < occam> yes.. 15:06 < toya> and conversations goes on here on irc? 15:07 < occam> well, you could also make a audio stream only 15:07 < occam> like normal radio 15:07 < robbt> yeah 15:07 < occam> + webcam images 15:07 < occam> that would be great too and the low-fi version 15:08 < occam> also 15:08 < occam> another things is 15:08 < occam> the actual conference 15:08 < toya> that sounds better and easier for ppl to set up 15:08 < occam> we can not do any real time taling, the delay will be too long ... so we can only do some kind of a rotation 15:09 < toya> if we do the talks using audio stream, how we can do this rotation? 15:09 < occam> where location A is doing the presentation, and then we switch to location B and so on 15:10 < toya> (so we need a place to centralize it and works as a 'mixer' for the talkings...so ppl can be hearing from the streamm that this 'mixer' is broadcasting) 15:10 < occam> thing is, we can stream at the same time, but people need to show all these streams... 15:10 < occam> so you need allot of laptops 15:10 < occam> just to watch each location at the same time 15:10 < kwadronaut> occam: splitscreen ;-) 15:11 < occam> if everyone is watching, we can start the rotation 15:11 < toya> hmmm 15:11 < occam> yeah, well, fullscreen will be already very small 15:11 < toya> i was thinking of having a page configure with all the ppls webcams...that will be showing images...then ppl just go there to seee the images from the webcam... 15:11 < occam> and not everyone will have a beamer or so 15:11 < toya> and for the audio 15:12 < toya> has each one streamming it and we take a place to be mixing the streamms and releasing a broadcast fromthis mixing 15:12 < occam> feh is very usefull for watching webcam with a automatic reload and fullscreen modes. feh is a image viewer for linux 15:12 < occam> toya: that would add allot of delay! 15:13 < toya> we should do the talking on ric 15:13 < toya> irc 15:13 < occam> yes 15:13 < toya> adn keep the webcams 15:13 < toya> it would be easier if the webcams can be desplayed at some url... 15:13 < toya> for ppl to watch 15:13 < occam> ahh, well, the coordination.. but it would be great to have the presentations on the streams, audio or video, you can explain things much better this way 15:14 < toya> hmmm 15:14 < toya> we could have audio presentations on the first sunday only 15:14 < toya> dunno 15:15 < occam> there are these kids from r23.cc, hacklab, they already did some live video presentations, where they just had a local conference and they streamed it in real time 15:15 < occam> well, thing is, everyone has to have some more laptops around that are able to show a image or play a audio or video stream 15:16 < toya> yah 15:16 -!- briks [user@b19c04.e669db.471e07.623dd0] has joined #techmeet 15:16 < toya> some places there isnt possible to do 15:16 < toya> and also ppl doesnt even have real video cameras 15:16 < toya> webcam would be easier to set up just for the images 15:18 < toya> like, 15:19 -!- anarcat [anarcat@53d63e.10e82b.221240.df9ad7] has joined #techmeet 15:19 < toya> 1. webcams for video, centralizing it on a place where ppl can just go to check out the images from the other places webcams 15:19 < toya> 2. conversations on irc 15:21 < occam> there will be almost no advantage over a nomal irc meeting, you can not transport any info via a webcam image.. but.. its a minimum thing, everyone should do... if you can do more.. do it 15:21 < occam> ok?! 15:24 < occam> i will add more infos about it on the wiki 15:24 < occam> next point? 15:24 -!- robbt [robbt@b4ec54.87eff6.26b9d3.692192] has quit [EOF from client] 15:24 < toya> occam sounds good 15:25 < toya> i am just thinking of what can be easier to everyone...so on sundays ppl know where to look at for following the conversations 15:25 < toya> we can set up a audio streamm from here 15:25 < toya> and i think the audio streamm can be easier to set up from mostly of the places 15:25 < toya> but you said that would be a delay 15:26 < toya> but how we will know 15:26 < toya> which audio to listen to? 15:26 < occam> direct audio stream will be ok, but to mix them will add allot of delay 15:26 < occam> we have to coordinate that via irc 15:27 < occam> thats what i mean with the rotation 15:27 < toya> that sounds good 15:27 < toya> i see 15:27 < toya> i see 15:28 < occam> so, as soon as everyon is ready and tuned in, they can start the presentation 15:28 < toya> so lets say, on the sundays ppl meets over here on irc, and we coordinate the rotation of the streamms over here - meanwhile there will be video streams and/or webcams for ppl to look at if they want to as well 15:28 < occam> we can give some limits 15:28 < occam> like only a half hour talk max 15:29 < toya> yeah 15:29 < occam> and 15:29 < occam> also, it would be good to have recording of the presentations 15:29 < occam> so pl can listen and watch the talks after the meeting 15:30 < occam> people 15:30 < toya> also would be good if ppl put their 'streamm url' before hand on irc....so locally ppl knows who is streamming from which link, and be able to play it when the locations is starting to talk 15:30 < occam> i dont know if there is any app that can edit ogg video streams.. :( 15:30 < occam> yes 15:30 < toya> (not irc but on the wiki) 15:30 < toya> you can record it with wget 15:30 < toya> :) 15:30 < occam> get that info out as soon as it is fixed and working 15:31 < toya> if the streamm ends with ogg 15:31 < toya> .ogg 15:31 < occam> yes 15:31 < occam> but you might need to edit it.. dunno if thats possible 15:31 < occam> anway 15:31 < occam> audio will be fine 15:31 < toya> cool 15:32 < toya> i will add on the locations table, a column for 'audio streamm url' 15:32 < occam> also, if the up-streamer can record, that would help too 15:32 < occam> yeah, or more genereal, "stream infos" 15:32 < toya> yah 15:32 < occam> i bet that we get some video stuff running here in germany, as addition to the webcam and audio 15:33 < toya> ;) 15:33 < toya> so maybe we should change that page on :How to Participate: Video 15:33 < toya> to How to Participate: Conference 15:33 < toya> and inside of it explain this we just talked 15:33 < toya> and give a link for each media 15:34 < occam> yeah 15:34 < toya> where video will fit in 15:34 < toya> aslo audio info, stream server contacts for ppl to get mount point 15:34 < toya> for their stream if they dont have a server to do it 15:35 < toya> cool i can work on that on the wiki, and add pt translation to it as well 15:35 < ianni> :) 15:35 < toya> would be good - when this how to participate: Conference page is done - to send this info throught the 'announcement list' 15:36 < toya> so ppl can get prepared to it before hand 15:37 < toya> i guess we got it! 15:38 < occam> organize and test the conference tools now, webcam, microphone, etc pp15:38 < occam> have it ready and working BEFORE the conference day 15:38 < toya> yah! 15:38 < ianni> just for the record: in brasilia there is no planning on having a local meeting. but many people will be on the free radio meeting. 15:40 < occam> whats next on the agenda? 15:41 < toya> 13:36 < rhatto> 4 - proposed discussion agenda for the techmeet (so people can just suggest what they would like to talk about) 15:41 < toya> i have migrated all the cms discussion records from last year 15:41 < rhatto> hi :) 15:41 < rhatto> im back 15:41 < toya> the surveys etc 15:41 < toya> to the new wiki 15:42 < toya> So for the CMS point on the agenda, ppl locally can start taking a look on that - work with translations on that page is still needed! 15:42 < toya> mostly is in english 15:42 < occam> ok, beside the cms stuff, i think its a good idea if people just make a presentation of the resources they have and need. up to some more details. like. we have server A,B,C with services x,y and we have a need for...whatever 15:43 < toya> yah 15:43 < toya> also i think a good presentation from ppl locally would be what they are doing to avoid 'legal problems' 15:43 < occam> everyone can do it and it will help allot to see what is out there 15:44 < toya> that could help ppl with new ideas etc 15:44 -!- zapATIsta [marco@1ab00b.a45d6b.9aac94.530f3c] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:44 < toya> i mean- registration of domains, secure locations for the servers (how to not depende on corporations for that) 15:45 < toya> ....... 15:47 < toya> one topic should be bandwidth, i dont know, but we should talk about the bandwidth problems, how we can start working together to help ppl who need more bandwith - or you think this fits ont he stuff you are saying ppl should present? 15:47 < rhatto> i have some points to suggest, but im writing a message to the list to talk about that as im busy now :/ 15:48 < occam> toya: yeah, its exactly for it... like "we have 2mbit here and 100mbit there, etc pp" 15:52 < occam> any more propsals for the talk? 15:52 < occam> anything else is up to the local collectives then? 15:52 < occam> they still can do the stuff they have problems with at the moment, of what they did etc 16:02 -!- mainbrana [mainbrana@48dff2.786004.3a04a8.d5471e] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 16:02 < toya> i guess that is all 16:02 < toya> is it? 16:02 < rhatto> :)))) 16:02 < foz> =) 16:02 < kwadronaut> think it's ok to close meeting ;-) Views |